(12:00:42) LobsterEd: hi
(12:00:48) xpuppyfan12x: hi Lobster
(12:00:52) LobsterEd: yes he said he would make it
(12:01:00) LobsterEd: hi ;)
(12:01:52) xpuppyfan12x: I think we ought to wait for him since he's the project lead
(12:01:57) xpuppyfan12x: assuming I can keep my eyes open
(12:02:00) LobsterEd: ok
(12:02:12) xpuppyfan12x: I thought it was 6am EST :D
(12:02:29) xpuppyfan12x: I haven't got any sleep yet
(12:02:30) WhoDo [n=WhoDo@138.130.120.42] entered the room.
(12:02:55) xpuppyfan12x: Good morning WhoDo
(12:03:09) LobsterEd: hi Warren
(12:03:14) WhoDo: WhoDo is present and accounted for! Good morning/evening Joe/Ed
(12:03:33) xpuppyfan12x: oh yes evening there :)
(12:03:43) WhoDo: Hi Jeff, are you on?
(12:04:09) alienjeff: No.
(12:04:20) WhoDo: :)
(12:04:55) xpuppyfan12x: okay well it's time so shall we start
(12:05:03) WhoDo: Yep
(12:05:09) LobsterEd: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy215Meetings∞
(12:05:13) xpuppyfan12x: First on the agenda is introductions.
(12:05:16) WhoDo: Who will log
(12:05:33) LobsterEd: I started but would like a second logger . . .
(12:05:57) xpuppyfan12x: I'm always logging, I'm not sure if it's setup for time stamps though
(12:05:59) LobsterEd: (I am in RC3 and Gaim crashed on me)
(12:06:27) WhoDo: Check that the script is calling gaim2
(12:06:28) xpuppyfan12x: xchat is working stable for me so no probs
(12:06:46) LobsterEd: LobsterEd = Lobster = Ed Jason = wiki master = official cructacean
(12:06:54) WhoDo: Seems like a lot of stuff I fixed hasn't made it through the remaster process
(12:07:12) WhoDo: WhoDo=Warren Willson=dog's body
(12:07:22) LobsterEd: am using RC3a
(12:07:30) WhoDo: :)
(12:07:39) WhoDo: Thats the same as RC3 only with zdrv
(12:07:45) xpuppyfan12x: JoeD = Joe Dopp = puppyfan12 = wiki updates
(12:08:00) LobsterEd: good job on the updates ;)
(12:08:08) xpuppyfan12x: ditto
(12:08:17) WhoDo: Yep to both :)
(12:08:18) LobsterEd: :)
(12:08:43) xpuppyfan12x: I loaded up 2.15 rc3 today but I haven't had much time for testing yet
(12:09:05) WhoDo: I wish I could withdraw that release and remaster
(12:09:24) WhoDo: It just went pear-shaped almost overnight due to script issues
(12:09:47) WhoDo: Joe, you'll need to add zdrv_215.sfs to that version
(12:10:20) LobsterEd: would an RC4 before Final be in order?
(12:10:34) xpuppyfan12x: okay we'll get to that shortly, firstly the topic is Dealing with sfs files for a full hard drive install
(12:10:42) LobsterEd: :)
(12:10:43) WhoDo: Yep
(12:10:55) xpuppyfan12x: anyone familiar with how that can be done?
(12:11:10) WhoDo: The sfs files only union if there is a pup_save.2fs present
(12:11:14) xpuppyfan12x: I've updated the wiki with other methods of loading sfs files
(12:11:25) LobsterEd: I am downloading the packages with wget as we speak . . .
(12:11:32) WhoDo: Otherwise you have to mount loop the sfs
(12:11:37) xpuppyfan12x: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy215sfsExpansionPacks∞
(12:12:17) LobsterEd: Warren do we need more sfs - or expect more?
(12:12:26) xpuppyfan12x: Whodo: is that what is outlined in the section titled "How do I mount the squash file system on the fly"
(12:13:12) xpuppyfan12x: I found those instructions on someones wiki pages
(12:13:55) WhoDo: I think its even simpler
(12:14:08) WhoDo: Maybe a script that can be run would be the best alternative
(12:14:50) LobsterEd: Is it late in the day for such a script?
(12:15:14) WhoDo: Goes something like mount -o loop /file_215.sfs /mnt/home
(12:15:42) WhoDo: No. A script is a minor issue as it uses stuff already in the distro version
(12:15:55) LobsterEd: Ah OK. Would it be run from an icon?
(12:15:56) jaguarrh [n=jaguarrh@60-241-64-57.tpgi.com.au] entered the room.
(12:16:31) WhoDo: I'm thinking that would be a good option, or maybe a menu item. Welcome jaguarrh
(12:16:50) jaguarrh: thanks
(12:16:50) LobsterEd: Hi jaguarrh
(12:16:58) xpuppyfan12x: hello jaguarrh
(12:17:02) jaguarrh: hope u dont mind a curious onlooker
(12:17:09) WhoDo: Nope.
(12:17:19) jaguarrh: ty
(12:18:01) xpuppyfan12x: a menu item that would run the script could work
(12:18:20) xpuppyfan12x: has it been tested yet?
(12:18:22) WhoDo: Ed your question about sfs - only the multimedia one is outstanding and it won't come in time for the Final release of 2.15
(12:18:46) WhoDo: No. I haven't even written it, as I don't know much about scripting. I'm willing to try though
(12:19:13) LobsterEd: Ah - OK but they can be added later - a similar thing with the links on the offline page (can be modeified later - will come to that)
(12:19:24) WhoDo: Puppy 2.15CE is bound to be about 132Mb including multimedia stuff.
(12:19:25) xpuppyfan12x: okay, I am learning bash scripting and I'll help see if I can figure it out as well
(12:19:43) WhoDo: I'll get you the correct syntax, Joe
(12:19:51) xpuppyfan12x: Thanks
(12:20:08) LobsterEd: OK - post as soon as you do it - GuestToo in particular is helpful and knowleadgeable about scripting . . .
(12:20:27) WhoDo: Yeah, mms_215.sfs isn't crucial for Release. Yep on the G2 support
(12:20:31) LobsterEd: (post on forum - maybe developers forum too
(12:21:15) LobsterEd: the size is big how would it run with 128MB ram?
(12:21:21) xpuppyfan12x: would that work on a full HDD installation as well?
(12:21:58) WhoDo: It loads only 111Mb in RAM
(12:22:09) WhoDo: That means it still runs in under 128Mb
(12:22:13) xpuppyfan12x: currently there doesn't seem to be a solution for loading .sfs files on a hard disk install (non frugal version)
(12:22:32) xpuppyfan12x: based on reports
(12:22:37) xpuppyfan12x: I haven't tried it myself
(12:23:13) LobsterEd: Oh - yes - I gets it. So 128MB is min for 2.15CE?
(12:23:21) WhoDo: Only the script Joe. We'll have to build that ASAP. I would have tried tonight but I had this meeting to attend. :)
(12:23:45) WhoDo: Yep. Puppy announces it runs in under 128Mb so CE has to meet that spec. IMHO
(12:24:08) jaguarrh: yep, that counts me out with only 96mb
(12:24:09) WhoDo: You can still load in less RAM if you have the swap enabled, of course.
(12:24:33) jaguarrh: ah ok
(12:24:37) LobsterEd: If we announce on the forum EXACTLY what the script is meant to do - many more options might be forthcoming (maybe?)
(12:24:42) WhoDo: I have 512Mb and so Puppy loads the max
(12:24:51) WhoDo: Yep, not a bad idea, Ed
(12:25:34) LobsterEd: eh .. . so what is the script meant to do load and unload sfs that are on the HD?
(12:25:44) xpuppyfan12x: no worries WhoDo, it's not up to you to do all the work :)
(12:25:53) WhoDo: Yep.
(12:25:58) WhoDo: and Yep
(12:26:21) WhoDo: Sunburnt has built a GUI loader, but I didn't want to trial it in CE as a Consolidation release
(12:26:26) LobsterEd: OK - I will solicit script - but please go ahead - might even try myself (you have been warned)
(12:26:45) WhoDo: Hey 3 heads, even Lobster heads, are better than one!
(12:27:10) xpuppyfan12x: lol
(12:27:13) LobsterEd: time to move on yet to next agenda item?
(12:27:22) WhoDo: Do tell
(12:27:45) WhoDo: That means "what is it"?
(12:28:07) xpuppyfan12x: I had another question re: the sfs graphics file but I see lobsters updated the wiki
(12:28:09) LobsterEd: Progress reports
(12:28:21) WhoDo: What was the question Joe?
(12:28:26) LobsterEd: ?
(12:28:43) WhoDo: I think you guys should add zdrv_215.sfs to the wiki download page, too.
(12:28:49) xpuppyfan12x: there was confusion surrounding it because there was updated made and different MD5SUMs on each mmirror
(12:29:04) xpuppyfan12x: > updates made
(12:29:17) WhoDo: Yep.That has been resolved with the new pgs_215.sfs uploaded by PkaG.
(12:29:39) WhoDo: He tried to update the wiki page too. Did it happen?
(12:29:50) xpuppyfan12x: great. yes, the wiki is updated
(12:30:01) LobsterEd: :)
(12:30:14) LobsterEd: Progress reports?
(12:30:19) WhoDo: Yep.
(12:30:43) WhoDo: The only thing holding up our Final Release is the update to the offline web page.
(12:31:03) WhoDo: I have been on the forum tonight to post some fixes in the RC3 Cleanup thread.
(12:31:28) xpuppyfan12x: The only reason I haven't done the page is because I couldn't get the sfs files to load
(12:31:47) xpuppyfan12x: and I was updated the wiki and reading up on scripting
(12:32:00) WhoDo: No recriminations intended Joe
(12:32:02) LobsterEd: Bum! Well forget the CSS mods - I will work on it tonight and get you a new one by tomorrow
(12:32:16) WhoDo: Just stating where we're at.
(12:32:36) xpuppyfan12x: okay, it's not going to make a huge difference anyhow
(12:32:45) WhoDo: The more time we have with RC4 before declaring it Final the better
(12:32:52) LobsterEd: Yes no worries - I will provide modified code soon as I can
(12:32:56) xpuppyfan12x: the size of a single text html page isn't very much space saved
(12:33:21) WhoDo: We can issue it as a dotpet update later if you like?
(12:33:40) LobsterEd: Modified for Final that is . . .
(12:33:52) WhoDo: Yep
(12:34:01) xpuppyfan12x: you mean modified links Lobster?
(12:34:10) xpuppyfan12x: or the html/css markup?
(12:34:24) LobsterEd: Are you more or less happy with it - any major changes you think needed?
(12:35:01) LobsterEd: It just needs a bit of spit and polish . . .
(12:35:02) WhoDo: As long as it says "Welcome to Puppy 2.15CE" and doesn't mention the release edition, I'm happy
(12:35:22) LobsterEd: OK - that part is easy . . .
(12:35:30) xpuppyfan12x: oh yah it's fine, the css updates would just remove a lot of the font markup tags and add mouseover highlights on the links, that's all. No point in holding up the release if that's the only thing holding itback though
(12:35:56) WhoDo: Did you guys like headfound's help?
(12:35:57) xpuppyfan12x: although during testing I did notice 2 bugs that haven't been fixed
(12:35:58) Pup2learn222 [n=Pup2lear@ool-4350f701.dyn.optonline.net] entered the room.
(12:36:00) LobsterEd: Yes I will do some hand coding
(12:36:18) WhoDo: Welcome Pup2learn22
(12:36:23) LobsterEd: yes I liked the Help HTML
(12:36:24) Pup2learn222: ty
(12:36:34) WhoDo: Okay make that Pup2learn222 :)
(12:36:48) Pup2learn222: k
(12:37:00) LobsterEd: Hi Pup2learn22
(12:37:00) LobsterEd: (12:36:23) LobsterEd: yes I liked the Help Welcome Pup2learn22
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(12:37:37) xpuppyfan12x: for some reason Xvesa still fails to boot at startup until I type xwin starticewm at the CLI
(12:37:53) WhoDo: Yep. The two files necessary were dropped by the remaster process
(12:38:19) xpuppyfan12x: and 800x600 24bit color still goes to 640x480 at 16 colors or 256 colors or something other than what it should be
(12:38:28) WhoDo: You need to make /etc/TZ world readable and create /etc/videomode and make it world readable. I'll ensure that doesn't happen again
(12:38:44) WhoDo: The resolution is a function of no /etc/videomode file
(12:38:50) xpuppyfan12x: no problem, as long as you're aware of it for the final
(12:39:11) WhoDo: Oh, yeah. cthisbear made SURE of that! ;)
(12:39:56) xpuppyfan12x: that's the only bugs I've found is the video startup mode with not loading from a pupsave file
(12:40:16) WhoDo: I no longer trust the remaster script. I've posted a question on the Dev forum and so far they're puzzled too
(12:40:53) xpuppyfan12x: I haven't tried it yet. No worries WhoDo, you're doing a great a job and it looks great
(12:41:12) LobsterEd: What have we learnt? (or are we still on progress reports?)
(12:41:26) WhoDo: We're still on progress reports
(12:41:28) LobsterEd: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy215Meetings∞ agenda
(12:41:30) LobsterEd: OK
(12:41:37) xpuppyfan12x: Another progress report: I've thoroughly tested solitare and it's extremely stable ;)
(12:41:59) WhoDo: :)
(12:42:00) xpuppyfan12x: (that was while downloading the .sfs files, not while I should've been doing the css)
(12:42:12) WhoDo: :lol:
(12:42:34) WhoDo: I have fixed several minor annoyances
(12:42:48) WhoDo: Things like no icons in the video wizard
(12:42:58) WhoDo: And a missing pup from the JWM start button
(12:43:28) WhoDo: Got over enthusiastic removing icons to save space
(12:44:05) xpuppyfan12x: sounds good
(12:44:10) WhoDo: With the regression to Leafpad 0.8.1 and the fixing of Xvesa, there are no major issues left
(12:44:51) xpuppyfan12x: congrats on a job well done than Warren. Any other progress reports?
(12:45:12) WhoDo: BTW, Lob. The 132Mb includes 17Mb of zdrv_215.sfs, which doesn't load in RAM. That's why it still all loads in under 128Mb
(12:45:38) LobsterEd: Understood Warren - many thanks . . . :)
(12:45:44) WhoDo: Nope. I'll keep my eye on the dev forum for the remaster script issue
(12:46:04) xpuppyfan12x: okay next topic is What have we learned?
(12:46:41) xpuppyfan12x: no need to revisit issues we've already covered, anything we haven't covered yet?
(12:47:04) WhoDo: I've learned a great deal of respect for guys like Nathan Fisher, who did the last major CE (1.09CE)
(12:47:11) LobsterEd: Lot of pressure on the central developer. Need for better communication - perhaps voice conferencing?
(12:47:36) WhoDo: He has been a magnificent help throughout out the process, as has PkaG and Pizzasgood. Tronkel is right up there too.
(12:47:41) WhoDo: Yep on the pressure issue.
(12:47:58) WhoDo: We need more input from devs
(12:48:00) xpuppyfan12x: I agree, it's hard when our communications aren't centralized.
(12:48:08) LobsterEd: Could we lowly life forms have done more?
(12:48:18) WhoDo: I haven't heard anything much from rarsa, MU, BarryK, Dougal, etc
(12:48:29) xpuppyfan12x: A CMS would be helpful integrating forum, wiki, chat, mailing list, bug tracker, etc. I think for future projects
(12:48:49) WhoDo: No, you guys have been great. I haven't had to worry about documentation and stuff, and that's been a HUGE help
(12:48:59) LobsterEd: thanks
(12:49:10) WhoDo: Main problem with devs has been time zone related, I believe
(12:49:48) WhoDo: I'm disappointed we couldn't use Sunburnt's stuff as it is too new, but a feature freeze was necessary
(12:49:49) LobsterEd: OK I am gonna look at a jabber or other chat engine - any thoughts or ideas - skype and gizmo are too hit and miss
(12:50:34) xpuppyfan12x: hopefully I'll be of more help on the dev side at a later date. I've been learning a lot about bash scripting and the linux startup process
(12:50:34) jaguarrh: linphonec cli version works over sip phone system
(12:50:43) LobsterEd: I feel the main forum was BETTER then the specialised forum we set up for 1.09 .. .
(12:51:04) WhoDo: What's sip jag?
(12:51:17) xpuppyfan12x: I've heard teamspeak works good
(12:51:19) jaguarrh: its the system that gizmo uses
(12:51:23) LobsterEd: is it true not everyone has Sip?
(12:51:31) jaguarrh: ???
(12:52:18) WhoDo: Might be worth looking at one of the real time conferencing progs
(12:52:30) LobsterEd: (sorry) - it needs to work from Puppy and be consistent - will do some research again ;)
(12:52:40) WhoDo: They can do all sorts of things including blackboard
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(12:52:52) WhoDo: :)
(12:52:54) alienjeff: Voice conferencing isn't the issue. The issue is that devs haven't been attending meetings.
(12:53:00) WhoDo: Yep
(12:53:36) LobsterEd: that is why the forum (which Mu prefers) is still a good sounding and comunication arena . . .
(12:53:49) WhoDo: Time here is now 8:53pm. I'm happy to adjust a couple of hours either way to accommodate devs
(12:54:11) alienjeff: You can set up voice/video/smell-o-vision conferencing, but if the devs refuse to participate in the comms, wtf?
(12:54:40) xpuppyfan12x: I think puppy in general would really benefit from a CMS that integrates the forums, wiki, bug tracking system and anything else that could helpful
(12:54:51) WhoDo: Maybe a straw poll to see who would attend and when, Lob?
(12:55:20) WhoDo: Yep, Joe. Getting a bit off the topic though
(12:55:49) xpuppyfan12x: maybe, but that's what I've learned from this project :)
(12:56:14) WhoDo: True
(12:56:16) LobsterEd: we have a CMS - not used that much - set up by the foundation
(12:56:34) WhoDo: Hmmmm...why is that?
(12:57:09) xpuppyfan12x: probably because the existing information is spread out, it'd require the various admins to consolidate their databases into a single CMS
(12:57:17) WhoDo: I think CE should still use the forum as that's where most of the community can SEE what's happening
(12:57:26) WhoDo: and have input
(12:57:27) LobsterEd: Because the structure is set up but it is the work (not the structure that is important
(12:58:01) xpuppyfan12x: Is there any other things we've learned from this version?
(12:58:13) LobsterEd: The wiki works because people update and use
(12:58:30) WhoDo: Yep. but we need to test before announcing releases, even Beta's
(12:58:35) LobsterEd: the forum works because people use - other forums are not used but they exists
(12:59:16) WhoDo: I don't like issuing releases only to have to reissue within hours because of a flaw that didn't show up on my machine.
(12:59:42) xpuppyfan12x: whodo do you test with the pfix=ram option before you release?
(12:59:53) WhoDo: We need to make a 24hour testing lag between uploading new releases and announcing. Yep. Joe
(13:00:16) LobsterEd: that might be a good idea Warren . . .
(13:00:35) WhoDo: Got caught with no zdrv_215.sfs on this occasion because my lappie uses the i810 drivers so it didn't surface
(13:00:55) WhoDo: i810 is compiled into the kernel and independent of zdrv
(13:00:57) xpuppyfan12x: What's the reason we didn't keep to the original release schedule?
(13:01:02) LobsterEd: However - you release - people test and then you decide on what happens next - so kinda works that wayh anyways?
(13:01:07) xpuppyfan12x: was it related to 2.16?
(13:01:13) WhoDo: Yep
(13:01:28) alienjeff: How so?
(13:01:42) WhoDo: BarryK PM'd and asked if we could release soon so he can stall off 2.16 until after 2.15CE hits Distrowatch
(13:02:18) WhoDo: He's released two experimental versions to keep the dev effort going, but needs testers and won't release until we're out there
(13:02:37) xpuppyfan12x: In what way does 2.15CE affect 2.16? Will Barry be using some of the features from the community edition?
(13:02:58) WhoDo: Hosting for one. It comes down from ibibilo.org
(13:03:03) LobsterEd: Do you want to do an RC4 about wedensday or before . . .?
(13:03:19) WhoDo: The pressure on the hosts when Distrowatch announces is astronomical!
(13:03:51) WhoDo: I'll do RC4 as soon as possible. I'm out of town Tuesday and back Wednesday, but I'll work on it from the motel on Tuesday night
(13:04:14) WhoDo: I need updates by Tuesday 4PM my time
(13:04:27) xpuppyfan12x: Someone posted about hosting a torrent server
(13:04:48) WhoDo: I won't have access to the net at the motel so I have to grab stuff before I leave to travel 2hrs
(13:04:49) LobsterEd: 2.15 is already influencing 2.16 - look and feel is a big part - Iam suggesting the code name "Love" for 2.16 (tee hee)
(13:05:32) WhoDo: Veronica the Cow suggested but couldn't get it going.
(13:05:47) WhoDo: What about our new hosting offer, Lob. Will that do?
(13:05:48) xpuppyfan12x: I'm glad to hear that because the look and feel plays an important part in the # of people who will want to adopt it
(13:05:59) LobsterEd: OK the offline web page and getting more HD scripts will be my priority for today
(13:06:53) xpuppyfan12x: will there be an RC4 or is the next version final?
(13:07:00) LobsterEd: the new host has some massive pipe but is not yet in place for RC3a - so not sure - will email them back
(13:07:22) WhoDo: We have raised the bar for Puppy by producing 2.15CE. I don't think devs have any choice but to follow that lead.
(13:07:46) WhoDo: I will release as RC4 on Wednesday, and will give 24hours for testing before making it Final
(13:08:20) xpuppyfan12x: 24 hours before announcing it you mean?
(13:08:25) LobsterEd: When I use Puppy with Office and Gimp etc etc all as sfs - it is MODULAR (this was suggested for 2.03CE - now it is happening
(13:08:27) alienjeff: I don't think devs have any choice but to follow that lead. <

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however apparently they dictate the release cycle (13:09:08) WhoDo: True, jeff, but we've had our influence on them too.
(13:09:24) WhoDo: At least they're holding off for us
(13:09:30) alienjeff: Yes...one alpha and three, maybe four RCsa
(13:09:31) LobsterEd: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/MeatyInfo∞
(13:09:47) WhoDo: How much interest would 2.15CE create if it was competing with 2.16 on Distrowatch?
(13:10:19) alienjeff: It's NOT in competition.
(13:10:28) LobsterEd: dunno - where are we on the agenda?
(13:10:43) xpuppyfan12x: # New business
(13:10:52) WhoDo: One Alpha, Two Betas, and two unintended RC's.
(13:11:17) WhoDo: You don't see it as competition, but it is. Competition is for the hearts and minds of those who distro shop
(13:11:48) WhoDo: 2.15CE is meant to be the big Puppy sell!
(13:11:53) xpuppyfan12x: Anyone have new business to bring to our attention?
(13:12:02) LobsterEd: no
(13:12:34) xpuppyfan12x: shall we set the next meeting time then?
(13:12:39) WhoDo: I have one question
(13:12:43) xpuppyfan12x: sure
(13:12:43) alienjeff: <WhoDo> 2.15CE is meant to be the big Puppy sell! <
that pretty much says it all
(13:13:26) WhoDo: What happened to the resolution change option on Video wizard?
(13:13:46) WhoDo: In 2.12 it used to have a button to change Xorg resolution. It's not there anymore
(13:13:47) LobsterEd: ? Dunno Warren . . .
(13:14:44) WhoDo: We'll get there, jeff. Remind me again after Easter if you don't think it achieved our aims
(13:15:41) xpuppyfan12x: WhoDo: this is what happens on first boot with pfix=ram:
(13:15:48) LobsterEd: So the Next meeting after Easter?
(13:16:03) alienjeff: It's the the "big Puppy sell" aim that I'm at odds with.
(13:16:22) WhoDo: Yep, Joe.
(13:16:22) xpuppyfan12x: this is what happens with I select Xvesa 800x600 24 bit colour:
(13:16:35) WhoDo: Why "at odds" jeff?
(13:16:56) WhoDo: Joe, look at solution posted in RC3 Cleanup thread.
(13:17:14) xpuppyfan12x: sorry I just read when you said: <WhoDo> What happened to the resolution change option on Video wizard?
(13:17:40) xpuppyfan12x: and responded to that before seeing the 2nd line of text you typed
(13:18:36) LobsterEd: Are we finishing soon?
(13:18:41) WhoDo: No probs. Looks aweful doesn't it?
(13:18:58) LobsterEd: :)
(13:19:08) WhoDo: Yep. Just waiting for jeff to respond to my last question. It's a valid point
(13:19:13) LobsterEd: OK
(13:19:17) alienjeff: If I'm not mistaken, the meeting was scheduled for 10-12 GMT.
(13:19:25) WhoDo: Yep
(13:19:30) xpuppyfan12x: I'm ready to wrap this up when everyone else is finished discussing their points, then we'll pick a time for the next meeting
(13:19:37) LobsterEd: OK
(13:19:40) WhoDo: OK
(13:19:44) alienjeff: Forget my response.
(13:19:49) WhoDo: Why?
(13:19:53) WhoDo: PM me if you need to
(13:19:57) alienjeff: ty
(13:20:08) WhoDo: welcome
(13:20:56) WhoDo: If jeff is ok with that, then I'm ready to set a new meeting time - say Wednesday?
(13:21:05) LobsterEd: OK with me
(13:21:53) WhoDo: Same time? Earlier? Later?
(13:22:04) xpuppyfan12x: I've done over a 24 hour shift so I appologize if I'm somewhat incoherent
(13:22:08) LobsterEd: same time is OK for me
(13:22:16) xpuppyfan12x: same time is fine for me as well
(13:22:42) LobsterEd: Any more offers?
(13:22:46) xpuppyfan12x: Although which day?
(13:22:51) WhoDo: Ok, then I hope to have uploaded RC4 by our meeting on Wednesday at 1000GMT
(13:23:06) xpuppyfan12x: next weekend is easter weekend (not sure who celebrates it and can't be available)
(13:23:26) LobsterEd: OK - Please sir can we go now?
(13:23:31) LobsterEd: ;)
(13:23:36) WhoDo: Yep, Final will be announced before then. Wednesday is the best bet
(13:24:13) xpuppyfan12x: how about next meeting date for you Warren?
(13:24:36) xpuppyfan12x: or are any more meetings required?
(13:24:40) WhoDo: 4 April at 10:00GMT
(13:24:58) WhoDo: Last chance for feedback before RC4 goes Final on Thursday

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